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Help requested posted on 13th March 2018:

School Crossing Patrol (volunteers)

We are receiving a number of requests from schools who do not qualify for a school crossing patrol but would like us to train and manage a volunteer. Does anyone else support schools with volunteer SCPs where traffic is low? And if so do you charge for administration and uniform? We are happy to fund the training.

Sarah Collins

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Response posted on 13th March 2018 by:
Derek C Donald

E: d.c.donald@btinternet.com
T: 01463792154

School Crossing Patrol (volunteers)

I would check out the insurance postion before proceeding. As they will not be employed by the authority, would they come under the authority's insurance if something should go wrong when they are on duty? Claiming for perceived wrongs is all too common an occurence these days.


Response posted on 13th March 2018 by:
Mark Foweraker

E: m.foweraker@cardiff.gov.uk
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School Crossing Patrol (volunteers)

I was involved in the consideration of this option some years ago, but we never proceeded with it.

However, I would recommend that you require at least two volunteers for each site so that they can rota the duty and provide cover for absence.

I would also recommend that you advise that there will not be any Council Cover should the volunteers stop, or otherwise be unable, to work. Otherwise you risk having a SCP post created by a back door mechanism. We, many years ago, had a similar situation when a school funded a SCP, stopped funding and demanded cover, which they got.

My comments are my own.


Response posted on 13th March 2018 by:
Carla Lowe

E: clowe@westminster.gov.uk
T: 020 7641 4095

School Crossing Patrol (volunteers)

Hi Sarah,

Peter Wilson be able to provide you with further information about how this has worked for a school in Westminster.
His details are available via the 'organisations' tab on this site.


Response posted on 13th March 2018 by:
Peter Wilson

E: pwilson@westminster.gov.uk
T: 0207641 2016

School Crossing Patrol (volunteers)

We have not had volunteers per se however have trained school staff to cover for SCP sickness and in 2 cases trained school staff where the school is on a split site and there is a large number of pupils crossing a relatively quiet road but in class size numbers throughout the day. the site would not meet the guideline criteria.
the school did not want staff to do what would normally be done on a class trip as often the class was dismissed and sent to the other building whilst the teacher remained and set up for the next class. hence the desire to have someone to aid their crossing. In these cases the school supply the person, uniform and add the activity to their own insurance. We train and do occasional monitoring for free. We have identified the location on our maps as the operation is only legal if the site is approved by the highway Authority. I have effectively made it a temporary site renewable each academic year.


Response posted on 13th March 2018 by:
Andy Swallowe

E: andy.swallowe@cambridgeshire.gov.uk
T: 07788 565502

School Crossing Patrol (volunteers)

In Cambridgeshire we require a minimum PV2 of 2 million before we would consider approving requsts for third party funded/volunteer SCPs.

If we approved a third party funded or volunteer SCP site the Council would recharge all uniform, training and supervision/management costs. Also as others have advised the Council would not be responsible for proving cover should the SCP be absent from work or leave.

The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 advises that third parties such as schools are not permitted to have SCPs without the Councils approval. Additionally the Council has a statutory duty to ensure suitable people are appointed as SCPs and to monitor and manage both the SCP and site regardless of who funds them.


Response posted on 14th March 2018 by:
Darren Dowd

E: darren.dowd@eastsussex.gov.uk
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School Crossing Patrol (volunteers)

We have volunteer patrols at a small number of sites. These are a mix of school staff, parents, and local residents.
We do not charge for admin or uniform (though they will get 2nd hand/returned items rather than brand new where possible).
They are covered under CC insurance policy, as the policy covers both employees and volunteers, providing we manage them in the same way i.e. DBS checks, site surveys, regular appraisals, monitoring and training etc.


Response posted on 15th March 2018 by:
Rob Camp

E: r.j.camp@dorsetcc.gov.uk
T: 01305224548

School Crossing Patrol (volunteers)

I think the important point with volunteers, which has been made by some posts, if you essentially employ volunteers, yes you do not pay them a salary, but everything else is the same. So if you have several volunteers at one site sharing the duties, you have several resource implications as the manager. So what whatever way you look at it there is a cost and resource implication to accommodating volunteers. In Dorset we use a sponsored SCP system where communities who want a SCP where the criteria is not met. The community pay the salary costs and the SCP is employed officially. We do not charge management costs, so there is still a cost implication.


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