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Help requested posted on 25th January 2012:

Pass Plus

We have been subsidising Pass Plus since 2008 but have noticed falling numbers taking up the subsidy since we introduced a 2 hour class room session just over a year ago. We are trying to find out if it is the theory aspect which is putting clients off or just a general fall in numbers taking Pass Plus. Have any other authorities expereinced anything similar?

Barbara Isle
Herefordshire Council

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Response posted on 26th January 2012 by:
Ian Edwards
eDriving Solutions Ltd
E: ian.edwards@edrivingsolutions.com
T: 0789 10903 749

Pass Plus

Hi Barbara,

When I was at Kirklees Met Council (Huddersfield) I developed a new driver discussion group in 2003. We had excellent take up and I believe this was sustained until the scheme stopped about a year ago (I had left by then) because of funding. I suspect the reason for the downturn you are experiencing is more associated with a reduction in the numbers learning to drive, this has dropped dramatically in some areas in the last 18 months, and a reduction in numbers taking Pass Plus. The latter is due to a reduction in support (not sure if this is actual or perceived) for the scheme by the insurance companies. People just don't see the discounts as being there, which was always the big pull.

I have been working with a number of councils in developing a schemes that encourage higher levels of the Goals for Driver Education to be taught as part of the learning to drive process rather than as a bolt on. If you would like further information about these approaches please feel free to contact me ian.edwards@edrivingsolutions.com

Best wishes,

Ian


Response posted on 26th January 2012 by:
Sarah Collins
Cheshire West and Chester Council
E: sarah.collins@cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk
T: 01244 976713

Pass Plus

Hi Barbara
We run a scheme called Pass Plus Xtra developed with the help of Ian. Young drivers attend a 3 hour theory session in an evening and receive a £100 voucher towards their Pass Plus which must be undertaken by one of our own trainers. This ensures the ADI is following on from the theory session and the quality of the training is monitored. If we offer a fully subsidised course we have far to many clients, once we offer a part subsidised course numbers fall although the courses are always full. Unfortunatly with money being harder to find we too are going down the part subsidised route. I agree with Ian th einsurance companies are not playing ball at all.


Response posted on 26th January 2012 by:
David Clark
95 Alive Partnership
E: david.clark@northyorks.gov.uk
T: 01609 797479

Pass Plus

Here in North Yorkshire we launched our Enhanced Pass Plus scheme in March 2010. It has always included a two hour New Driver Discussion Group and we have had very little feedback that the discussion group has put people off taking the training.

We too have found a significant drop in numbers of new drivers participating in the scheme this year. This is in keeping with the drop in the number of young people learning to drive and taking driving tests. We think that increasing insurance costs are also a factor that has reduced the number of young people who can afford to drive.

We have had very few candidates who have not attended the group session and the proportion of all Pass Plus clients attending the session has remained constant throughout – even when overall numbers of candidates have dropped. The New Driver Discussion Group are the crucial element in our programme because it addresses attitudes, perceptions and peer group influences so is central to the training. Pass Plus on its own only adds some wider experience and skills, without any work relating to attitudes, it doesn’t work and the research has shown this to be the case for this and other similar projects. We have commissioned independent evaluation of our Enhanced Pass Plus, with a control group who did not take these sessions which showed that it is effective in influencing young drivers attitudes. This evaluation report will shortly be submitted to the knowledge centre.


Response posted on 26th January 2012 by:
Keith Baldock
Brighton and Hove City Council
E: keith.baldock@brighton-hove.gov.uk
T: 01273 563293

Pass Plus

We have no funding for subsidy now - having run theory sessions in order to get subsidies previously. We get few to the "open" theory sessions but are going into colleges with it to tutor groups and elsewhere. Some colleges insist on their students who want to park on college doing this in order to get a parking permit. In one part of Sussex police send young drivers issued with a sect 59 are told to attend sessions. we did attempt to get a package of enticements - money off offers - to those who come along. local IAM helped, so did some driving instructors and a repair shop but I don't think it has helped.

Where do you get your funding from!


Response posted on 26th January 2012 by:
Paul Griffiths
Cardiff Council
E: pgriffiths@cardiff.gov.uk
T: 02920788528

Pass Plus

In Cardiff we have also experienced a decline in Pass Plus number and feel this is due mainly to the economic downturn.Rhondda Cynon Taff have piloted a more practical approach to the theory session by getting the participants to look under the bonnet of a vehicle and discuss other maintenance issues, this seems to be working well.


Response posted on 26th January 2012 by:
Ian Edwards
eDriving Solutions Ltd
E: ian.edwards@edrivingsolutions.com
T: 0789 1903749

Pa

Sorry Barbara... just seen a typo... my mobile number is 0789 1903 749.


Response posted on 26th January 2012 by:
Rob Lewis
Cumbria Road Safety Partnership
E: rob.lewis@cumbriacc.gov.uk
T: 01228 673075

Pass Plus

Hello Barbara
We have been offering a discount for Pass Plus with a complusory theory session led by the Fire Service for a number of years in Cumbria. There has been a slight decline recently but this appears to be as a result of insurance companies withdrawing / reducing their discounts. I have previously raised this with the DSA for investigation.


Response posted on 27th January 2012 by:
Julie Dagnall
Wirral Council
E: juliedagnall@wirral.gov.uk
T: 01516062004

Pass Plus

We have offered also offered a pass plus / IAM skills for life option with a fire service workshop as the required element.
Definately struggled to fill the places even with the driving instructors on board and publicising it.


Response posted on 27th January 2012 by:
irene williamson
Staffordshire County Council
E: irene.williamson@staffordshire.gov.uk
T: 01785276611

Pass Plus

Hi Barbara
In Staffordshire we have been offering Pass Plus Extra to newly qualified drivers since 2005. In 2010 we conducted an evaluation of PPE. If you let me have your email address I am happy to share this with you.

As with other RSO's unless the insurance companies support this it is difficult to get young people to engage with PPE. We work with our local test centres to promote our programme

For information the DSA in January 2010 conducted their own Evaluation of PPE. I have tried to obtain a copy only to find that although the DSA did conduct this which included Focus group meetings with young people both of these documents were never 'signed off'. The actual full review which they did may never be published!
Irene


Response posted on 7th February 2012 by:
Eleanor Gibson
South Lanarkshire Council
E: eleanor.gibson@southlanarkshire.gov.uk
T: 01698 453617

Pass Plus

In South Lanarkshire we introduced a subsidy of £75 towards Pass Plus in July 2007.

The uptake for each year is as follows:-

Financial Year 2007/8 - 175
Financial Year 2008/9 - 271
Financial Year 2009/10 - 182
Financial year 2010/11 - 265
Financial Year 2011/12 - 165 (to date)

We do not have a classroom based part to the scheme.

Kind regards

Eleanor Gibson


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