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Help requested posted on 7th October 2019:

Anti social cycling

The apparently nationwide craze of gangs of (mostly male) young cyclists wheelying their bikes through live traffic lanes and pedestrian filled footpaths, has reached our sleepy county. I have been asked by a local school to "do an assembly" to dissuade the participants. I fear I may make the practice seem even more "fun" by talking against it. Has anyone else come across this and have a solution? Many thanks.

Martin Andrew

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Response posted on 17th October 2019 by:
Rod King

E: rod.k@20splenty.org
T: +447973639781

Anti social cycling

Be thankful. 10 years ago they were running across roads playing "chicken".

Now they cycle down the road on one wheel.

I guess the key ask is what the "responsible adults" in cars will do to protect them from the consequence of their testosterone. Well, how about we "Drive slower". WHO and so many more say the only safe speed where motor vehicles mix with pedestrians is 20mph.


Response posted on 17th October 2019 by:
Andrew Russ

E: andrew.russ@sweco.co.uk
T:

Anti social cycling

Kids being kids, how dare they?

Perhaps, if we provided, say, special lanes physically separated from motor vehicles; or did away with shared footway/cycleways - disliked by all users but beloved of councils and Sustrans because they're cheap and tick a box - so that everyone was clear that peds and cyclists shouldn't mix?

These are the measures we would take (or support) if we were serious about their and everyone else's safety, not just giving a stern talk.

(Or the other sanction which seems to have been used by at least one head - taking away the 'privelege' of cycling to school).


Response posted on 17th October 2019 by:
Charlie Holland

E: charlie@palaceofvariety.co.uk
T: 07795462568

Anti social cycling

Do the assembly in the playground with all pupils asked to bring their bikes in that day. Get in a couple of Bikeability instructors well used to doing SUD courses with lorry drivers. Have the instructors do a very brief introduction to covering brakes and giving consideration, time and space to others.
Then just say that the whole playground is there for pupils to cycle - it's 'free time'. After a few minutes stop the riding and ask if anyone is feeling intimated or bullied, and by whom. Refer those called out to the school's specialist in tackling bullying.


Response posted on 23rd October 2019 by:
Peter Wedlake

E: Peter.wedlake@kent.gov.uk
T:

Anti social cycling

We have similar problems in many towns in Kent. On the positive side most of the children are very capable at controlling their bikes and clearly do a lot of cycling, which is one of our objectives. However it is often done in an anti-social way, which puts pedestrians and themselves at risk of injury.
We have done some Level 3 Bikeability in secondary schools, which was well attended and received. I don't think this has changed their behaviour hugely but they are more aware of the risks now. There is also a Youth services lead project called 'Swerve it' which seeks to engage and inform the young people. Too early to say if this has made any difference but happy to send you more details of this.


Response posted on 23rd October 2019 by:
Patrick Allan Moore

E: patricka.moore@btinternet.com
T: 01489589219

Anti social cycling

If you make cyclists feel that it is the duty of everyone else to keep them safe then you produce, as we now have, out of control cyclists who do not look after their own safety nor that of other road users. As a pedestrian, I have been hit three times by cyclists in the last three years while facing the traffic and walking along country roads and city streets where, either because traffic is quiet, many cyclists do not bother to really look ahead where they are going or in town they assume they have equal right of way on all footpaths and intimidate to pass through pedestrian traffic. This arrogant assumption that they are a protected species means that too many cyclists, from serious adult cyclists to juvenile bike riders, feel that it is unnecessary for them to take a wider road user view of road safety. Many ride unchecked and with impunity without lights, with blinding spotlights, without regard for pedestrians, switch from road to pavement at a whim, think lane markings are for the rest of the world, ride along busy roads without hands on handle bars, do random wheelies, operate mobile phones on the move, wear headsets which prevent them listening to the road environment around them etc etc. Every shopping precinct has the same problem despite having notices banning the use of cycles in the pedestrian areas.

The sycophantic attitude of too many road safety 'Partnerships'which tacitly accepts abuse of the highway code by cyclists is replicated by similar deference being given to motor cyclists many of whom also ride with similar impunity and are, usually,the victims of their own incompetence, bravado and unawareness.
Never mind 'Think Bikes' it should be 'Bikes Think'. Every road user has a responsibility for the safety of all road users. Nanny State must let the foolish learn their lessons. State sponsored mothering of bad road behaviour, as opposed to providing off road training, and its unintended suppression of the human survival instinct cannot continue to go on into adulthood as it has done. If it continues to do so, then the indiscipline we currently we have on the roads will just get worse. This is evidenced by growing lack of care clearly now being seen in too many young car drivers who think indicator use is unimportant, space between vehicles is for cutting in etc etc. These are all habits which they have acquired having been indulged in the protected status of cyclist and have now transferred to another form of transportation where they continue to show the same disregard for the road traffic act in general.

Many sponsors, similar to the one that made this request for feedback will not like to hear it but too many Authorities are aggravating the problem by tolerating abuse and seeking to absolve cyclists of self responsibility simply because of their vulnerability As such, they are too ready to always attribute indisputable blame on to other road users for the poor road sense and poor behaviour of both cyclists and motor cyclists.


Response posted on 29th October 2019 by:
April French

E: april.french@bromley.gov.uk
T:

Anti social cycling

Hi. We do an anti-social/nuisance cycling assembly primarily aimed at students in Years 8 & 9. It focuses on the consequences of riding dangerously, from injuries to fines and more. If you're interested in more info, please email me.
Thanks,
April


Response posted on 31st October 2019 by:
Glen Kyle

E: tcb333@shaw.ca
T: 587 333 5246

Anti social cycling

The bicycle for some, has turned out to be a tool used to rebel against other motorists and pedestrians. Most cyclists however, fail to understand, that once they mount their bike, their status as a road user instantly turns into vehicle operator. With this then, come the same responsibilities as any other motorists. Education should be starting at home and then broadening to the DMV departments and Driving Schools. Law Enforcement needs to mandate sting operations 3 or 4 times a year to ensure that riders are obeying all street laws, and are participating on our roads in a safe and law biding manner. When found to be in violation, they should be expected to be disciplined as any other motorist would. Legislation to bring in higher fines, restrict areas for which cyclists can travel, safety bike equipment and legal requirements, should all be monitored by the local police departments. If not, city councils need to be made aware of the lack of vigilance.


Response posted on 31st October 2019 by:
Barbara Cronin

E: ss2barbara@aol.com
T:

Anti social cycling

As a retired Road Safety Officer, I have seen and heard every argument about anti social and bad cycling practice. I get annoyed with pavement cycling by adults and local schoolchildren. My practice when a cyclist is bearing down on me from the front on the pavement is to stand stock still, making them avoid me - not vice versa. I do get apologies particularly from adults.


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